Could you explain?

What gain does that bring Hamas? Comparing that to what gain it brings netanyahu it does seem like he’s more likely to blame.

Animal torture sure makes you seems cool.

Might want to checkout cyber security and pen testing. It’s not the same thing exactly but it kinda close in some regards.

Have part of his probation be having his property searched to check for such devices.

Put monitoring software on his devices.

They don’t have a real answer that they can say out loud.

Nonsense hypotheticals are not whataboutism.

That’s ok. Take some comfort in that my take has developed over a long period of time and that I originally counted myself as a centrist/moderate Republican. Also don’t mistake my view as not allowing for many shades of gray. My honest assessment of the modern Republican party is that they had flown past every gradient in a race to be as extreme and partisan as possible. McCain was the last decent Republican and even he compromised his integrity for the sake of the party. Also I have tried to understand republicans but they have always failed to coherently reconcile what they claim to believe in with what they do politically.

No that’s not the case. Republicans are the bad guys on account of what they do. Democrats cast other Democrats as bad guys plenty so your assessment doesn’t match reality. Additionally Democrats regularly compromise and work with Republicans while the reverse hardly ever happens so it’s not that Republicans are just the default political enemy, it is based on the specific issues. It just so happens that most things republicans want span from dumb to evil. Republican unity is not a demographic thing, at least not in the framing that you are talking. It’s a philosophy of blind loyalty.

I wouldn’t classify Democrats as good. They are a mixed bag. Republicans though I feel comfortable classifying as evil. Because of their policy of loyalty to the party above all else and the unity with which they vote even the “not so bad” ones are complicit and aid the worst of them. The parties are not the same. Republicans are objectively worse. They have been for decades.

That’s fine but your take is a little too much head in the sand for me. Ignoring their decades long pattern of behavior and insisting on moving on from the things that expose them or attempt to hold them accountable is exactly what they want.

Dropping it and moving on is letting them get away with it. Democrats try but the balance between Democrats and Republicans had been too close with a few notable Democrats reliably acting in lockstep with Republicans at critical moments. It is not giving too much blame or credit to conservatives. If you’ve been paying attention at all during the last 40 years it’s what they’ve been doing.

I disagree with the need to drop it and move on part. Conservatives thrive on that. They lie and deny until fatigue sets in and then are never held accountable. Then when we’ve all moved on they either rewrite history as needed or just act like nothing ever happened. Not dropping it makes their pattern of lies more obvious.

I think that an honest assessment of Trump’s handling by the legal system shows that there is plenty to go after him for and that he has been given far too much leeway. The system is broken in the sense that it relies on being populated by good faith actors instead of loyalists to a demagogue.

I think that the motivation and the handling was different but I wonder if you feel that the decades a legal pursuit of the Clinton’s similarly shows that it was unfounded?

I think they didn’t take action against Trump because of a combination of cowardice, party loyalty, and overt obstruction from prominent Republican leadership.

Read the report and listen to what Mueller said he thought were the appropriate boundaries of his job. He refused to make judgments and focused on putting facts and evidence in the report. Fox and Republicans twisted that into the narrative that you are repeating. Mueller didn’t find collusion because he refused to take that role, supposedly believing that the elected representatives were the ones that would take an honest look at the report and make that judgement. But you are asking those questions because you want to deflect away from you making claims about without having read it. All news didn’t reach the same conclusion. All right-wing propaganda did though.

Why are you asking these questions now after asserting falsehoods before and refusing to read the report?

I did when it came out.

Read the thing.

That you didn’t give a helpful answer makes me doubt you where as before I was interested in what you had to say.