Point taken, guess I remembered it wrong. But if you take a look at the arch wiki, they say that your mentioned client is actually not official.

This article is mainly about the semi-official, proprietary Spotify for Linux client, which is developed by Spotify’s engineers in their spare time and not actively supported by Spotify.

No not at all

Yes!

You’re missing the point I’m trying to make. He’s stating his opinion, which his absolutely valid for him, but concludes that in general it’s not worth it and that it is not good. The only thing I did was mark his opinions, also mark my opinions, but conclude that in the general case there’s no better option. I only wanted to draw attention to this style of rhetoric which I don’t like as a discussion culture.

Btw I also don’t like the ad homimen argument e.g. “stupidest comment I’ve seen” etc. That’s not how a respectful discussion should be.

I’m not arguing against his personal opinions, I’m arguing against his conclusion that tidal is not worth it (for everyone,because that is how it is worded).

How is it of your concern how I spend my time?

I’m talking in the context of streaming services here…

Maybe you’re right with the Linux client part, but I don’t know any other streaming service that does provide one? At least Spotify and Apple Music don’t. Does it make them also not worth it? I would disagree.

I never said tidal is the best app to support artists. In that regard there is a better option, just give them your money for free. I meant as a streaming service, quality wise and in terms of paying artists, there are no better options.

What I didn’t like about your OP was the fact that you laid your personal opinions out and then concluded that tidal is not worth it. Doesn’t make me a shill when I answer with counterpoints.

Interesting. For me, none of any recommendation algorithm worked decently well for me. I find new bands via following other bands (on Instagram, sadly), look at what they listen to, what bands they hang/tour/do concerts with or by asking other punks or by checking other communities.

Not saying it’s not a valid point against tidal overall. I would also enjoy me a linux native client. However I don’t see why this is a valid point against tidal and for apple music.

Having said that. I found a bug in their windows client and the devs are very much receptive for feedback. Maybe in the future when more people use Linux they’ll come around and make one. Or the community will with tidal’s open source SDK.

What do you mean? I’m interested in his opinion and he wrote it like it was an absolute fact. Poor way to start a discussion imo.

I don’t agree. He wrote it like it was absolute, whereas it’s a personal opinion. Like you stated correctly.

honestly it’s not really good

*for you it isn’t

the search sucks

what’s wrong with it? works fine for me

no offline mode on desktop

why would you need it? it’s supported on phones, just listen via phone?

no official Linux client

Neither does apple music. Tidal are open sourcing their SDK though

an incomplete catalog

*for you. for me there isn’t

It’s not worth it, even if they are the least bad for paying artists

Again, for you. On paper, tidal is the better option and I rather support artists than some questionable monopolistic corporation

Good thing they are migrating to FLAC! Also, while MQA is objectively worse, subjectively it’s pretty much equal to objectively better options. At least for us humans :) I found this double-blind test of MQA critic Archimago and they couldn’t find a statistically significant difference between MQA and PCM :)

I mainly listen to punk and it’s extremely hard to find bands that are not on Tidal. When I migrated my playlists to Tidal from Spotify, there was only 1 Band which didn’t exist on Tidal. But because it was only 1 song that was part of one of my playlists, I simply didn’t care. I don’t even remember which one it was. Aha, they’re called Valentiine (3 piece all-girl garage rock band from Melbourne, Australia) and they’re still not on Tidal. Still don’t care.

Can’t speak for Jazz though.

He is! And I think he returned to Spotify as well. Nope, still off.

Tidal is the most popular option for audiophiles. What I also like about it is the fact that they pay artists much more fairly than other platforms. According to this, they payout $0.013 per stream on average (which means $1 per 77 streams). Because I listen to a lot of unknown artists it is important to me to be on a platform where I can support those artists much more directly.

AFAIK Spotify only pays the overall most listened to artists like Taylor Swift etc. I canceled my Spotify subscription when Neil Young quit Spotify.

EDIT: because this is becoming a bit popular, for anyone looking to migrate from Spotify to Tidal, I recommend this simple to use python script to migrate your playlists. And because we have a lot of Linux users here, check out tidal-hifi.

Leipzig and Dresden are fine. Especially Leipzig as it’s a student city, so of course it features more progressive people.

All the other, smaller cities, are not though. Erfurt, Jena, Chemnitz, Halle, … They are all considered right wing cities. Rural areas are generally more conservative and right leaning, I think that’s a global phenomenon.