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  • These figures are also heavily dependent on where and how the car was manufactured, too. If the factory is powered by clean energy, doesn’t that reduce the amount of greenhouse gas emitted during manufacturing? If EV tech advances enough that the mining rigs are electric-powered, does that not also reduce the amount of GHG emitted mining lithium? Eventually we’ll also have enough batteries to recycle that too (batteries are basically a very rich lithium ore), can’t we do that in clean-powered factories?

    Basically, I think the conversation on “how much manufacturing a given product pollutes” is entirely focused on the wrong thing…

    Also, a lot of these studies compare an EV’s complete lifecycle with just the tailpipe emissions of an ICEV. Mining, refining and transporting gasoline has a huge carbon impact before you even put it in the car.





  • You vastly overestimate that. It’s not a fixed number of cycles, it’s a number before significant degradation. In other words, after you’ve spent ~8000 hours driving, you’ll have to recharge about 40 minutes earlier.

    If you think your ICE car is still top shape after that long, go ahead man… But in all likelihood, it’s burning a little oil, it’s not as quick as it used to be, the transmission has a weird clunk in third, etc… nothing mechanical works forever, and yes that includes hydrogen.

    Hydrogen, by the way, is the worst of both worlds… It solves a very minor issue (charging on road trips) while introducing a whole lot of new ones. The infrastructure for it is non-existent, it’s still a lot of mechanical parts (if you’re talking about the ICE version) or pretty niche technology (if you’re talking about fuel cells), it’s a nightmare to store, and it’s probably still produced from fossil fuels.

    There’s a reason BEVs have caught on, and hydrogen hasn’t.