their plan is what alan grayson said it was nearly 16 years ago:

the republican healthcare plan is DON’T GET SICK. and if you do get sick DIE QUICKLY.

and how many of them voted for trump?

uh huh.

if bernie actually did the work to attract me actual base of the party, which by the way are not college age kids but black people, specifically black women, he would not have lost the primary.

and since that election he had another 4 years to work on his extreme deficit with black voters, but had zero outreach with that cohort. instead he doubled down on the youth vote.

that’s not a strategy to win a primary. but it’s a perfect strategy to try to split off young voters into not supporting the democratic choice in the future. and not shutting down conspiracy theories about rigged primaries doesn’t help either. what it does is create distrust where there shouldn’t be, fracture the party to turn against itself instead of the real threat which is the republican party, and in fact increase the chances that republicans win in greater margins because the super bernie side refuses to be smart and do damage limitation by not voting for the viable non republican candidate.

and by the way a few additional things that need to be considered:

1. if he wants the democratic nomination, why doesn’t he formally join the party? what he was asking for has been equal access to resources without a full commitment to the party. you all would rightfully object if I declared I’m running for president as a democrat even though I’m a registered non partisan. what makes him any different from me as far as the party is concerned?
2. it really is rich how you are all upset about the democrats (allegedly) putting the thumb on the scale for a candidate so now there is a pledge that all people in dnc leadership have to agree to that formally states that leadership will be neutral in all party races from now on. so which is it, you don’t want the dnc influencing races or do you not want the voters in the districts to decide who their candidates should be without party influences?
3. you also all think that the super progressive democratic candidate will play everywhere in the country. sure, it may work where I live. but I’m a blue® dot in a state trump won by 31 points. you have to run candidates that will win and super liberals in places like appalachia, oklahoma, or wyoming would consider it a good race if they lost by 50 points.

what it seems like to me is that what the vast majority of people here want is to destroy the democratic party from the ground up in the name of a stupid purity test the vast majority of the party does not agree with, and they want to do it while the most dangerous, insane person who is also the head of a violent cult is in the white house. you’re trying to make your own left wing cult with either bernie or aoc as the head and the rest of the party is not with that.

as I said above I’m not a registered democrat. I find myself politically closer to aoc and bernie. and I’M telling y’all that following and supporting hogg’s move will end the democratic party or any viable non republican party for generations.

what hogg is doing is wrong and destructive enough to irreparably splinter the party. it’s bad enough that he might be voluntold to resign.

but what carville is talking about doing is stupid moronic and only puts his name in the news again. he’s not only got no standing, he’d be laughed out of court.

in a vacuum what hogg is doing is fine. but the vice president of the party is never the appropriate person to do that. the party is responsible for getting more democrats. if the democrats in office are not doing the job or made for the current moment it’s up to the local grassroots orgs and activists to recruit, fundraise, organize, and turn out primary voters for better democrats. the party has no business getting involved in any democratic primary unless there is an obvious planted republican stalking horse involved.

and if the local folks back in the district cannot or will not find a quality qualified candidate to run, that’s in them not the national party.

there’s anti union as in “we think they’re a nuisance but we are tolerating them” and anti union as in “we are going to do everything in our power, legally and otherwise to make sure a union does not form or actively work to break the union that is in existence now”, companies like amazon and walmart and starbucks. if costco is anti union they are definitely not the second from what I’ve seen.

costco being anti union is news to me. especially since they are very loudly not dropping their dei program.

the smart ones are. the cultists are wrapping themselves in nationalism patriotism. the rest are just terminally unaware and don’t vote.

how about we just axe the white house correspondent entirely since they a) won’t stand up for their colleagues and b) won’t stand up to this administration or else they lose access.

the primary reason I stopped watching cable news since the election is the press being less than limp, weak, and feckless when it comes to anything dealing with republicans but somehow find their spines when a democrat is involved.

puritans. you know the people so uptight that the english told them to get the fuck out (or rather they left to practice their uber conservative religion without consequences from the rest of the people).

for whatever reason to our extreme detriment the super conservative religions grow in this country and we’ve all (in general) been taught to not call that oppressive lifestyle out to be polite. it explains why evangelical christianity isn’t really much of a thing outside this country.

how many people are going to blame trump for that when it happens?

I never had any issues finding toilet paper when I went to the store when I needed to get more. and things got better when stores started enforcing limits.

the party wins by following a simple 2 point plan:

1. actually listen to your base.
2. fire the democratic consultants who have led you all down disastrous results for 2 cycles.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that democrats in special elections way overperform than in general elections lately.

SHUT THE FUCK UP ADDISON. YOU ENABLED THIS.

sincerely your constituent

fun fact addison has weak, really moist hands. I should know, I shook his hand* in college.

*edit- damn autocorrect

i don’t think there’s anything more pathetic than a self-hating member of a minority. log cabin republicans support the very people who would see them tortured, mentally abused, or even better dead.

just because you may be an lgbt doesn’t mean that you are part of the community. skinfolk ain’t necessarily kinfolk.

it’s not government tyranny unless a democrat is president. duh,

i’d like to think most of us saw all of the pride/dei public promotion as virtue signaling (and being honest i was **not **one of those people). but now i hope all of those corporations get all the backlash. not because they were pulling back on all of that but because they were using the very public symbolism as a marketing opportunity and nothing else. it gives the impression that they never had implemented any of those practices or believed in people being who they are in the first place and that’s worse. i would not shop at those places just for these places using very public movements as an “US TOO!” crass commercial opportunity. end stage capitalism in practice, and now watch as these same corporations cry poverty and some sort of activist interference because the free market is reacting to their actions.

good.

more than half of the electeds need to go from all sorts of issues from stabbing biden in the back to push him out to voting to censure rep al green to voting for all of trump’s cabinet picks. the party is rotten and necrotic at the head and it’s dragging the entire country down.

how exactly is making sure that a rushed bill isn’t problem free with the right people in the room to address issues when the bill was written not progressive? sounds like jb is saying write it better and take your time to make sure it’s right this time instead of saying no.

he’s done a masterful job of framing issues that the (very) conservative commonwealth can accept without outright rejecting.

and believe it or not, he wasn’t my first choice to be gov in 2019. I thought he was too centrist.

THAT’S MY GOVERNOR