I was shocked when my new realme, which uses the same tech, didn’t even break 30°C while charging at 8+ Amps (should be around 80W). This was in a relatively warm room (25°C) and using the case that came with it

That’s impressive. I’m looking at my phone now, not charging, but the screen is on, and it’s at 33C. LOL

AccuBattery needs a session to have 60% charged, so <20% to 80% works. Doesn’t need to be every single one.

It’s rare for me to get that low, even while charging to 80%. 😵

But yeah, every so often I’ll let it drain, then do a 100% charge to see what’s up. I don’t like doing that, because even Accubattery says that takes up more of a charge cycle than charging conservatively.

I do like the trend chart, although, the battery health on that actually went UP 5% between March and May 😱

Wipe your ass with that.

As demonstrated in Montreal, Toronto, Paris (France), Netherlands (pick any city), Berlin, San Francisco, and every other place that takes transportation seriously, you have to degrow car-centric infrastructure to build people moving infrastructure, including bike lanes.

The growing urban population needs to find more sustainable ways to get around, because you can never satisfy car-centric infrastructure. “One more lane, bro” isn’t an actual solution to anything.

And my feeling is that they aren’t using the gains from this to make the batteries last, as SUPERVOOC is faster than pretty much every other standard. That makes me think they turned in any and all gains in battery health, for speed.

There is a setting to explicitly benefit from using an official charger and cable, but I don’t know if it’s on by default (it’s disabled on my phone).

That said, the heat while charging is about the same as the heat from holding the phone in my hand (around 38C), and doesn’t get much hotter than that while gaming thanks to pass-through charging.

My Samsung was definitely hotter, and would overheat if charging while doing anything like GPS navigation. But my last Samsung was a Note 10+, and so things may have very well changed since then.

You may want to use something like AccuBattery

Already do, and have for years.

But AccuBattery doesn’t seem to play nice with the OP13, with many users reporting lower battery health from the start (80-90%), and inaccurate capacity (<1000 mAh less than the designed capacity).

Coupled with the fact that it’s only accurate if you are constantly charging from below 15% to 100%, these are ranges that I rarely get my phone into.

Even though battery longevity is important to me, since I no longer replace my phones “every year”, it really would be best if these damn things had user-replaceable batteries that were readily available. 😫

Isn’t one plus one of the brands that has their own fast charging tech, that’s extra fast?

Yes, but…

OnePlus offloads heat to the charger, so the phone actually doesn’t get hot while charging. This fact alone would IMPROVE charge cycles, even at fast speeds.

But OnePlus also uses quite a few “tricks” to preserve battery health. Did the test include those features or did they turn them off. And if they turned them off, did they do the same with the Samsung phones (which have similar battery-health preserving options)?

I’ve had my OP13 since the day it came out (around 5-6 months) and keep it charged to 80% (built-in feature) and only charge it to 100% when I’ll be out for the day and need to use GPS with max screen brightness. Battery health is still 100%.

I’ve owned a lot of Samsung phones before that, and the battery health was the only reason I’ve needed to replace them. So, I’m glad to see that the EU is taking charge cycles into account.

One piece of the puzzle that the numbers don’t mention, is that the smaller battery of the Samsung phones means you’ll be charging more often (i.e. more charge cycles) vs. something like a OP13 with a larger battery and excellent battery life (i.e. fewer charge cycles for the same use). Maybe that balances things out, but I’m still shocked that Sammy can get 1000 more charge cycles, which is YEARS more battery health than the other brands.

edit: clarity

1,000 charge cycles: OnePlus 13

Hmm. This one has newer silicone-carbon lithium-ion batteries, which should actually increase charge cycles, so what’s happening here?

I believe it’s only done to blame others, if there’ll be a democratic government in the next decade they’ll point and jeer “Look at how many pandemic, medical and environmental deaths there are now, while under maga we had none!”

It’s more insidious than that. Imagine the next democratic government inheriting this mess. They re-open science, education, and oversight departments, who discover shock that things are really bad. MAGA will say, “See, things are bad under YOUR leadership! Can’t blame us!”.

Closing your eyes and ignoring a problem like it doesn’t exist is something that children, and Republicans, seem to do an awful lot!

Can’t have hurricanes if you aren’t monitoring them!

Can’t have COVID deaths if you stop counting!

Can’t have Government corruption if you terminate any oversight!

I’ll turn to spray paint and vandalism if we ever reach that kind of ad hellscape.

And their stock is still too damn high!

They don’t. You have to get them from a place that imports like PDA Plaza out of Quebec (I’ve used them before).

To me, that’s a dealbreaker, because you lose the benefit of getting replacement parts easily.

Tesla vehicles are specifically singled out, because as far as I know, they are the only autonomous vehicle that uses cameras instead of Lidar.

And the Tesla company has a habit of cover ups, falsifying or manipulating crash data, and fraud.

I don’t trust any autonomous car on public roads, but some are considerably more trustworthy than Teslas.

FWIW, you can buy robot vacuums for your home with more advanced object detection than a robotaxi. 🫤

I mean given their track record

That’s my point. Tesla (the company) has been notorious for pushing forward their deadly “self-driving” technology. It’s one of the worst automated systems on the planet, with plenty of tests, reports, and real-world incidences to raise red flags all over the place.

They SHOULD NOT be on the road, so are they only on the road because Musk was able to influence someone?

I mean, if they weren’t as buggy as they clearly already are, then sure… do a point system.

But as they stand, they shouldn’t be on the road.

Ah, Ok.

I agree with accountability, but not with the point system. That’s almost like a “three strikes” rule for drunk drivers.

That’s not really accountability, that’s handing out free passes.

Was it? I didn’t read a single hint of adding accountability in the article.

But that begs the question: shouldn’t accountability be in place now, and not maybe at some point in the distant future? They are already on the road.

How about we leave the driving to people, and not pre-alpha software?

There’s no accountability for this horribly dangerous driving, so they shouldn’t be on the road. Period.

Fucking hell. We don’t let drunks drive taxis, and that goddamn thing drove like it was under the influence.

Does Tesla get sent tickets for traffic violations, or are we OK with this?

I’m sure if I was paid enough to spend weeks compiling a list, I’d do it.

But what would that change for you? If you need more than the nearly 300 that are already filed in court (so far), then you probably won’t be satisfied with a list of 1000, or 10,000.

Just observe the things he does, and ask yourself whether it’s legal, unconstitutional, corrupt, or grounds for impeachment. You can add in unethical (but not illegal), if you like, but that would be like beating a dead horse.

For example, just a few hours ago, he posted about getting a “bum” out of office. That “bum”? A republican congressman who did not agree with the illegal act of bombing Iran. Firing someone for not agreeing with you breaking the law and oath to the constitution isn’t how a democratic country operates.

You can find countless examples of this, on a daily basis.

Just an FYI, there is a tracker of current legal cases against the trump admin (over 280 right now), and this doesn’t include much of the daily illegal stuff he does (like this recent attack on another country).

The tracker also doesn’t cover stuff like his scam phone, scam crypto, scam <insert any of the stuff he’s selling>, threats of annexation of other countries, using the white house to sell teslas, arresting people he dislikes, and so on.

There’s probably more than a 1000, now that I think about it. And this is all just from the beginning of the year. If you include his previous term, you could easily add a few hundred more. 🫢

One of like 1000 things he’s done in the last few months that was either illegal, unconstitutional, “grounds for impeachment”, or corrupt. 🥱