MrQuallzin

Same. I spun up a PieFed instance just for little ol’ me, but this drama is way beyond me

It’s hard to take your argument seriously when you can’t even imagine that plenty of people are already running local models with renewable energy already. I’d love to see where you’re getting “no one” from, or even just a handful.

Slippery slope arguments are a child’s argument. You can throw literally any problem on there and say “Watch what happens when people abuse the system!” Eating a chip is a slippery slope to having a heart attack. Driving a car is a slippery slope towards everyone getting race cars and killing everyone they see.

Heck, I haven’t even touched on my thoughts on what I believe are the right ways to use AI (Screw using AI to make images, write stories, etc. Creative works should be human made)

Anyways, you seem set in your doomer view of the future. I do not agree with your view of FOSS software somehow supporting your position, as I see nothing but a large growing (and thriving) community making the world a better place. I’ll not change your mind so I’ll stop the conversation here.

I’m not sure when you mean no one does what I described. Running a local AI? Ollama is huge, running small models for simple queries is trivial nowadays.

Like I said, I’m not disregarding the costs that went into making the model. Whether I use it or not, it exists and nothing will change that. I did not ask for it to be made, neither did I ask for a tree to be felled to make the grip of my hammer, or for resin to be cast into the table I found at Goodwill, or for any other wonderfully horrid example of the worst humanity has to offer. We live in the mess offered to us, and we as a community can come together to make it better. What we can do as a community is help fund ethically trained models and reduce the reliance on the giant data centers.

I think you might be able to tell where my edible hit in that ramble.

Here’s an honest question that I wonder about every once in a while. If I’m running a fully local model at home on my server, and my electricity comes largely from hydroelectric dams, am I contributing to the demise of the world? I watch the power usage when I run it, and I waste more power sitting idle in Final Fantasy 14 for a few minutes while using the bathroom than I do running a local AI.

To be clear, I am not disregarding the absolute horrors that our capitalistic overlords are wreaking on our world in the creation of these models, or the ethical concerns of where the training data came from. Those sins are on their heads.

Is that not what we were doing? I’m not disagreeing that it’s scummy that they’re installing unnecessary files, just speculating that’s it’s ineptitude rather than malicious. Hanlon’s Razor and all that. Considering the downvotes on my comment I may have misread your comment.

I imagine it’s more of a vibe-coded “make sure the end users have all the files they’ll need to be ready to go” prompt, and it’s Claude that “decided” to just have all the files from the get-go

Correct. Nowadays streaming video is almost trivial, but in early YouTube days it wouldn’t be uncommon to click a video and immediately pause it so it could buffer far enough ahead that it wouldn’t get stuck while playing. I don’t recall playing Snake, but it easily could have happened back then.

Hosting my own as well as of a couple weeks ago. It’s been an adventure getting things to work right, but it’s nice owning my data.

The more people that know a secret, the less secure it is.

If you and you alone know a secret and I need to get it out of you, I only have one chance. If you and a thousand people know the secret, I have a thousand and one chances of forcing the secret out of someone. The more people, the more weak spots and potential holes.

Technically they circled both. That’s basically the entire PNW coast

I’d say both

Don’t let computers steal your imagination and creativity