I used to do data reporting and list generating that sometimes involved working with advancements marketing. The email marketing system set a static list before it was actually sent. So you could have a draft ready 3 days ahead of time and each unsubscribe wouldn’t impact the static list they already set up. They eventually upgraded to a better system, but I could see situations where 3-5 business days is actually necessary, simply due to poorly planned technology.

Sure and work right past them by electing progressives and DSA members.

But for non voters i fear we can shame them, worship them, do everything they want and it still wont matter. They don’t vote because it makes them feel superior. Its not about politics, its about needing to feel justified in their belief that they are better. It’s just ego. Others are just myopic and act helpless. Until they start getting marched into camps, then they might start to see why voting always matters.

I’ve watched it over and over, a candidate will agree with someone on 99% of issues, finally a candidate these voters can get behind. Most of those non voters still stay home. They’ll find one issue they disagree with, or they’ll say it doesn’t matter anyway, that every candidate is controlled opposition. I’ve worked in politics, I’ve seen the data, I’ve courted those voters. Until non voters actually show up, mocking them is probably just as good a use of time as any (I’m maybe being flippant here).

Inaction is nearly as big an evil in society as bad action.

Oh I am far more angry at the Dem party. Not voting is still moronic.

You’re whole argument is a series of straw mans and doesn’t actually address what I said. You can literally go in and vote for no one or only one down ballot candidate you believe in and that would be far more productive than not voting. I could be the most left wing candidate that ever lived and courting non voters would still be a waste in most elections. How are you going to convince me that courting someone that has voted in last 4 elections is less important than courting someone who skipped the last 4? If you don’t vote, you’ve announced to the world you don’t care and the world responded as expected.

And exit polling doesn’t exist for non voters if they don’t vote… Who are these mythical people who never vote but we have mountains of data on. The primary way parties get data is through voter rolls and party affiliation that they cross reference with purchased metadata. If your not voting they have a choice between targeting reliable voters they know support them and complete mysteries that never vote, be real here.

Not voting only tells candidates that you’re not a reliable voter, so they can ignore you. They don’t see your non-vote as a protest vote, because failing to vote means you don’t exist to them. If you want to exist to politicians you have to vote. Also, there are nearly always down ballot candidates that are progressive that get ignored because morons act like the top of the ticket is the only reason to leave their moms basement.

Think of it from the perspective of a candidate, they have endless data showing them that no matter how hard they try they won’t meet your moral purity test, so they court reliable voters with their messaging and resources.

Democratic Socialists of America, they are growing fast at the grass roots level.

The #1 rule of not getting caught doing crime is don’t do 2 crimes at once. The in #2 rule is don’t make enemies of people that know where the bodies are buried. Sounds like you worked for idiots.

I’ve never understood that argument. He used some words that evoked the feeling of progressivism. But at no point did he actually say he was progressive or present a progressive vision. He was always slightly left of center, and very clearly ran as that, while having a campaign that appealed broadly. I honestly think people took “hope”, " change" and first black president and just assumed it.

I challenge you to find even one piece of Obama campaign lit that actually presented him as a progressive.

Edit: removing most details, not needed.

Don’t be a divider, be a helper.

Not once did anyone in the supposedly Jewish side of his family point out that he had a SS tattoo on his chest?

I’m Jewish, if I saw that on his chest I wouldn’t have any idea what it means. How could I inform him of his mistake if I didn’t know. And if I did know I would have been steering clear of him, not talking to him about his tattoo.

I’d argue at the state level they often have, it just gets lost in the noise. At least in Wisconsin and Minnesota, where I’ve been.

There is a difference between ending colonialism and removing people from land. I find it absolutely crazy that people that have no issue with immigration anywhere else in the world think it is suddenly bad there. The issue isn’t with Jews simply existing in the middle east, its with Israel’s colonialism and genocide of Palestine. Isreal can stop existing without the genocide of the Jewish people. Removing all Jews is evil, just as removing all Palestinians is evil, they are both genocide.

The issue is one of power, colonialism, and Israel’s genocide. Those can change without causing another genocide.

Dude, I’m not your therapist. Please go talk to someone instead of taking it out on potential allies. You need to deal with your shit instead of completely decontextualizing what people say and seeing enemies everywhere. To be very clear, I think netenyahu is objectively an evil piece of shit and those that follow him are embroiled in his evil. But any human alive can be evil, its not unique to Israelis or Germans. Calling someone a Zionist because your too confused to follow the conversation is silly. Please go back to reddit and take your toxicity with you.

I think you lack reading comprehension. Reread both sentences and maybe don’t jump to conclusions before activating your brain and comprehending the full point.

Yes, of course, the Nazis controlled their populace with hate and fear, im failing to see why this is suddenly controversial.

More pointing out that its easy to look from the outside and wonder why people are so awful, but humans are easily controlled with fear.

When you live in constant war, its really easy to instill fear and foment hate. That’s why netenyahu keeps up the war machine, its his primary avenue to power.

The rich have been screwing with the lower classes since the advent of money. Point me to a time in world history where those with money and power didn’t abuse the rest of us. The problem with hierarchical systems is the worst people always end up rising.

Really not a difficult switch. If you keep it completely free of google, you’ll miss google maps the most, imo. If you’re switching from a pixelphone you already own, remember to back up contacts, texts, photos, and docs.

I’ve nearly completely eliminated google from my personal life. Still need it for work, but they also have a long term plan to eliminate it. There are other options. But the thing I miss the most is google maps/Waze. Organic Maps really doesn’t compare.