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its actually funny, I think she made fun of the police for being fascists.

I’m sure you’ve heard this but just to reiterate, I’m super excited for this and I’m proud of you

Awesome! I’ll be checking it out, I love live streams and hate Twitch, got burnt out of the platform after watching for ~8 years.

This is exciting it just probably hasnt come to fruition this quarter. And businesses that are succeeding with AI dont really need to brag about it in the news. (Amazon?)

Well a LOT of americans support Israel and they hold a lot of power and wealth. I think the backlash against Biden from the right would be far worse than what the left is doing right now.

Dude this is only like 10 years too late. Youtubers deserve comorehensive moderation and curstion tools. Youtube comments should be at the forefront of video discussion.

Yes 100% and no doubt he is chasing popularity and has been his entire administration. Few of his actions stick out as good governance. And he’s still the best president in my lifetime. IMO low-mid tier. But still good somehow.

Okay, so… I just conceded that I can’t define spyware, and you’re accusing me of moving the goalposts over it but I think Ive given ground.
I have not ever brought up the privacy policy.

I stand by my point that security flaws are of strategic benefit to the powers that be. We can’t assume what shareholders want other than money. Yeah most of the exploits that were publicized were pretty basic and easy to avoid. These exploits are fundamentally discords fault that they were around so long, so easy to employ, etc.

Looking into it, I found those malicious scripts on google on the first page… Discord could have issued takedown requests to google and Github. When a company is so large, laziness is malice. Someone said “no, don’t fix that.” ha that’s the scare-pasta you brought up, isn’t it? Ah well.

You’re asking me to consider that discord is just doing what everyone else is doing and doing what its told by shareholders, who want a perfect and safe platform. You’re not asking me to change my mind, but actually make my arguments weaker. To moderate them. No thanks, I find the sharpest point to be more useful than a dull one.

Of course! Hope you’re all good, too. Getting on with the replies I’m thinking like… Damn I use discord everyday, I use discord and occasionally talk to people who still use Twitter (X)… Ha. 🤷‍♀️
Will I ever stop using Discord?

Idk what the bar is for spyware but Ill be specific about my belief: discord is basically the most red flags of any social media and also has the facade of a very private and personal space.

On reddit you can simply use a tampermonkey script to remove your data. On discord, there is no option to delete all your messages. To the extent that there’s a discussion worth having about whether Discord is following the GDPR.

Not tackling security issues means discord is okay with third parties exploiting the software to gain info about certain users - which could include hacker groups or government actors targeting single targets.

I dont think discord can give individual messages over, legally, although they are stored unencrypted on Discord’s server.

Alright, replies to my initial comment got me motivated to look for the receipts:

https://discord.com/blog/how-discord-stores-billions-of-messages

• yes discord saves every message forever, to an extent that they are almost certainly breaking GDPR laws.

https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/rsxeee/you_should_never_use_discord_and_heres_why/

https://meaww.com/discord-who-owns-jason-citron-microsoft-acquisition-company-net-worth-10-b-talks

I heard this argument so long ago that basically Discord doesnt sell data but instead shares it with shareholders, which includes many ad companies, including tencent. They probably give this data to their linked partners like twitch and Microsoft. Discord still isnt profitable and they are a public company, they are expected to exhaust every opportunity to give value to those shareholders.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90157501/how-widely-do-companies-share-user-data-heres-a-chilling-glimpse

https://stallman.org/discord.html

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If you connect to Discord via VPN they will ask for your phone number haha

Think about WHY only the absurdly wealthy companies would be able to purchase all of that data though. Because that data has immense value. Many authors and artists would certainly refuse to sell. I care that few companies hoard so much wealth and power, but I care more about the current issue that companies with wealth and power dont even have to spend a dime because they are just stealing.

Dont solve the problem of power consolidation on the dime of peoples life’s work.

But even under the current rules and system we are meant it have protections. These companies could see consequences. Even in capitalism, which serves capital, even in America, which does so even more fiercely - they have stolen.

I believe communication should not be a commodity. It should be FOSS. I believe discord is free because it feels like something that provides little to no value, and yet the company has shareholders and must provide value to them. Ridiculous.

The main thing investors do with technology is find something free and make a product out of it. This time they flipped the script by stealing, and I want these companies and investors to face consequences. I don’t want all of humanity’s creative works that have ever been posted online to be repurposed and repackaged by a new technology and then sold.

Why do you read Lemmy, while discounting the opinions and perspectives of other people here?

So the basics of what I’ve read is:

• Discord stores all messages and media. If you delete it, or delete your account, its still there.
• Discord does not SELL that data. Instead, they hand it over to the ad companies that are the shareholders of Discord.
• Discord has lots of security flaws that are abused by third parties all the damn time.

I know its different now because Discord has nitro and there are lots if good reasons to subscribe. But Discord ran without all if that subscriber funding and in that time they probably found ways to make money off of what resources they had at the time… Information.

Lemmy feels great. Discord alternatives, some of them feel OK and when I bring up issues with their performance I’m reminded they are open source.