If the CEOs Masters of the Universe can’t figure out how to use AI in 3 years then it is impossible and a waste of time, okay.

I’ve been saying that since the 80s, just wait, this Internet thing is doomed to failure as prophesied by the CEO-class of yesteryear.

Now we just need 3D printers which can print N and P-doped silicon so we can have the first Turing-complete Benchy.

Exactly, as with many problems in our societies, the answer isn’t to be angry on the Internet until it’s gotten so bad that you contemplate firebombing warehouses.

The answer is to participate in the political processes that were created to govern your area/country. The reason that these datacenter projects are being pushed through is because it’s just city council members in a public meeting where 2 citizens and 12 industry lawyers show up to voice their position.

Pay attention to local matters, vote, show up to public meetings, state your opinion. That doesn’t happen online.

They’re not great but you can recognize that they’re intended to be a hamburger.

Sadly, there are even lower quality patties that are entirely TVP. They come as a perfect grey disk that don’t change color when cooked, the cross section looks like neoprene and it tastes about the same.

The patty is a TVP (Textured Vegetable Protein) patty with a hint of beef.

No idea what the other thing is, gravy toffee?

Anti-Circumvention laws are bs and only exist to aid corporate rent seeking.

Well, acktually, you’ve never heard of it because it is a text string and you can’t hear text strings you can only read them.

Yeah, the LLM and picture generation bubble will burst but that isn’t ‘AI’, it’s a tiny subset of tasks that happen to be easy to train because the companies involved have helped themselves to all of the text and images created by humanity.

The other uses of AI are harder to train, because we don’t have centuries worth of robotic motion data or a YouTube of folded protein data. Those are the uses that will have the most impact in the future, as they are developed.

LLMs are a bubble, AI is not.

They’re really not though.

(Obviously, don’t do crimes.) That being said, a warehouse full of toilet paper is flammable… a warehouse full of aluminum racks and silicon isn’t.

In addition, their fire suppression systems don’t use water and so any fire that you did manage to create would be suppressed without affecting operation.

The administration got into power by being the first to hire the company (Cambridge Analytica) that discovered how targeted advertisement could be used to turn cash into effective propaganda by exploiting psychological profiling and social media.

That strategy requires a lot of money because in order to put their message in front of the eyes of people they have to pay for every single view. This has been effective since they represent a faction of American elites which have a huge amount of money.

Memes are different, they spread because they appeal to people and those people want to share them. This lets you wrap a message in a catchy meme and it spreads across social media for ‘free’.

This administration is fighting a 2020s meme war with 2010 tactics. Having all the money in the world, buying all of the TV, social media and news organization in the US can only do so much.

Now 5 writers with a few graphics cards can make meme-quality content which is seen by everyone as long as the message resonates.

This administration isn’t equipped for this kind of fight.

Their memes are weak and only ‘work’ in the right-wing media sphere due to them spending hundreds of millions of dollars on buying media companies, sponsoring influencers and running bot labs in order to signal boost their message and shape the online conversation by creating an artificial illusion of consensus.

There is no right-wing comedy, everything they do is built on making people outraged, angry and scared. That’s not the kind of memes that spread on their own and money can only do so much.

I agree that those experiments are not scalable.

I just see them as demonstrating a proof of concept (like ORNL demonstrating the splitting of an atom via neutron bombardment) and not as an attempt to develop a path towards arbitrary prime factorization.

Whatever the future prototype will be, it won’t be created by incrementally improving on those proof of concept demonstrations.

“theoretically, if you smash enough radioactive stuff together into a critical mass it will fission, so we’re going to compress these bananas until we hit that point”.

Potassium-40 does not produce neutrons as part if its decay process, so it is not even theoretically possible to achieve criticality in that manner.

The proof of concept ORNL tests used neutron bombardment which IS theoretically a method of achieving criticality, but there was no path for incremental improvements of those specific ORNL tests into anything resembling a weapon.

There actually were weapons tests that used neutron initiators but the source of those neutrons was not a particle accelerator. (Which is good because it’s hard to carry an entire particle accelerator laboratory in an ICBM)

0/10

At least @XLE@piefed.social put some effort into it.

My dude, while I appreciate the ‘just a tip’ angle of your snark, I have been arguing with people on the Internet longer than you have been breathing, so just let me cook and enjoy the ride.

A guy, who has no ability to program, announcing a fork of a major project deserves to be mocked. If you read that as advocating AI, then that’s certainly a decision and I applaud your bravery in standing up for idiots.

e: oh no my ratio

It looks like you’re doing this exact thing:

sort of like asking the Manhattan Project physicists in 1943, “so when are you going to produce at least a small nuclear explosion?”

There are a lot of engineering issues that need to be solved to get this to work. It isn’t like they’re going to figure out how to factor a 2 digit prime and then a year later have a breakthrough that lets them factor a 3 digit prime and then some scientists will figure out a tweak to allow a 4 digit prime.

Expecting that kind of incremental advancement is kind of like expecting the Manhattan project to make a tiny nuclear explosion and then work their way up to a larger nuclear explosion… it shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the technology.

You can’t just make a tiny nuclear bomb. You either have critical mass and a big nuclear explosion or you have no nuclear explosion at all. The early experiments with quantum computers where they were able to factor small numbers is akin to the ORNL research that showed that you could split an atom with neutron bombardment.

The Manhattan project wasn’t simply taking that research and then trying to split 2 atoms, and then 3 atoms until they got to the Trinity device.

It looks like it, it doesn’t seem to be doing any self-referencing/agentic things out of the box so the end user would need to build a bit to cover their specific use cases.

They seem to be aiming more at the startup/small company demographic than at self-hosters. This is just based on a skim of the repo and their product page, I haven’t looked at it too hard yet.

This is what makes social media into self-reinforcing information bubbles and leads people to be out of touch with the general public.

There’s actually a lot of demand for AI tools in the real world but communities like this one create narratives that convinced themselves that it’s all some kind of delusional grift with unclear motives.

100%

It’s one thing to be against the rampant capitalist orgy around AI that’s disrupting markets and driving up energy costs. I agree with that sentiment. I also agree that there are questions around copyright and said capitalists have stolen a lot of work from people.

That being said, it’s complete nonsense to take that gripe and then pretend that every possible use of Transformer-based neural networks is evil and useless.

Yes, there are aspects of the creation of commercial Large Language Models and Diffusion Models that are immoral and should be criticized, but if somebody’s kneejerk reaction is to hate everything that says ‘AI’ then they’re no different than the anti-vaxxers or election deniers or any other people who let social media do their thinking for them.

People are upset at all of the datacenters being created and also are upset when there are self-hosting tools being created, where’s the logic in that? What is the actual position held by you people other than: ‘see AI, downvote’?

Ratio doesn’t mean right. This is so obvious, that you (@call_me_xale@lemmy.zip) should feel shame that you even made that comment.

I know you wont, though, you must be right because look at the RATIO! That’s how you know how right you are, correct? After all, there is no need to actually make any kind of rational argument or attempt to participate in the discussion in any meaningful way, just find the right clapback and watch the ratio.

The same with the conspiratorial personal attack. They don’t share your opinion so they’re a secret plant by the AI industry? Really? Conspiratorial and paranoid delusions are not a substitute for a rational opinion, no matter what the ratio says or how self-righteous you feel when you press the submit button.

I look forward to your response. If I could make a suggestion, perhaps try insinuating that @FaceDeer@fedia.io and I are the same person on alt accounts, that one always gets good ratio. Maybe a single emoji reply, the effort:ratio ratio on that one is pretty good. I have a pretty considerable comment history, maybe you can find something in there. Though you could also go with not replying, I mean after all this is wayyyy down the comment chain so you may not find the attention that you’re seeking.

Put some effort into your snark and show a little originality. Repeating the “L ratio” meme is tired af.

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huge if true

i’m angry at them for being fucking idiots sure but like genuinely this could be a massive problem for all of us.