I will not be voting for the genocide suppier no matter what you say.

It’s just a grift to get your money and support.

And the dems and repubs are doing what with our money and support?

Oh that’s right genocide.

Hmmmmmmmm

I know your a genocide apologist.

what if all these people voted x" is a fun theory to have in your head but it will never materialize because the US system

I want you to realize this. YOU are the reason more people dont vote for 3rd party. You are here actively telling people that the only valid vote is for dems. That doing anything else is throwing your vote away. YOU are the problem.

They were saying this same thing when Al Gore was running against George bush in the 2000 Presidential race. Where has it gotten us?

It has led us here. where the dems are cutting checks for genocide.

It is completely unacceptable. You are a genocide apologist becuase you sit here acknowledging how flawed the system is while still demanding that people play into it.

Its ridiculous.

You say that the American system is flawed, and give many examples but then you tell me to vote for the same party that has either been wholly complicit in the corruption of the american system or so powerless too stop Republicans from doing so!

Either way a vote for dems is throwing your vote away. You will either elect an existing genocider or a new one!

Also, as if genocide is the only issue that matters here.

I’m also mad about the bait-&-switch with student loans cancellation. And a lot of other things. The only reason you to vote for biden is not trump. And thats fucking stupid.

not voting while knowing that one of the 2 genocide apologists will be chosen

Is this supposed to make me want to participate? It just shows how much we should all be voting 3rd.

Oh yeah my fee fees are hurting alright. Especially after watching all those tiny little bodies get pulled from the rubble in gaza.

Dude, cardboard is not acceptable. I never said it was. I have explicitly told you that the current situation is not acceptable.

Then why are you accepting it?

A vote for biden is support for him to continue doing what he does. How do you not see that ?

Dude I am so close to getting banned from c/conservative for saying Isreal’s genocide is bad. You’ve got it backwards.

While I can appreciate that. ( although its probably a waste of time) It doesn’t absolve you from what your doing here.

You are actively pushing people to vote for a party who absolutely supports the genocide. They are the ones in power now. They are the ones who cut the check. There is always nuance, but there is no watering this down.

Biden supports genocide , you support Biden.

You support genocide.

No, it’s an inherent, mathematical bias of the system.

No.

YOU are here telling people not to vote 3rd party…because 3rd party candidates dont get enough votes.

Do you see how that’s a logical fallacy.

You are actively helping to create the problem…while say that the problem… is the reason you are creating the problem.

If you and a bunch of people who think like you , started to vote differently it might not be always " lesser of two evils"

If you voted 3rd party, 3rd party might get enough votes…

But you are here telling everyone not to vote 3rd party.

You’re the one supporting Trump, the guy quoting Hitler.

As much as biden would have you believe, a vote against him is not a vote for trump. And i don’t care how many times you say it.

we can stop, no one is going to call me a trump supporter just to coerce me into voting for their candidate. You are a Genocide apologist. And you can go fuck yourself.

What if every person telling me to vote the lesser of two evils, voted independent?

“What if the sky turned purple?”

The sky is not going to magically turn purple.

Lol. But YOU are the person telling me to vote lesser of Two evils.

YOU are the one refusing to change for the better. You and a bunch of people who think like you.

Im gonna spell it out for you because it seems you are having trouble.

You’re the problem. you are the reason 3rd party candidates don’t get enough votes. Because YOU dont vote for them and tell other people not too vote 3rd party.

Am i being clear?

No, it’s because of the two party system.

And thats why i should vote for one of the two parties?

I am saying we need to do something different. Have you not been paying attention?

I guess im confused. Here i thought you were telling me to vote for the democrats.

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Establishment democrats won’t let it happen, but they can’t do shit if they don’t get elected

So we should vote democrat? Lmao Are you hearing yourself?

There will be red on everyone’s hands no matter what. No matter who we choose, our tax dollars are going to genocide.

And people tell me I’m pessimistic.

Our tax dollars are going to genocide because of the tacid support our politicians get from people like you.

You are the problem, you are the person who refuses to do anything different.

This situation didn’t start in 2016, it has been made by decades of people making the same choice you insist everyone make.

Vote blue or else!

Certainly not too genocide apologist like yourself.

The choices are Biden and Trump, one of them will be the next President.

This is because people like you keep voting blue every time regardless of how bad they are.

If all the people who voted lesser would vote 3rd party the outcome might be different.

Right now you are ensuring nothing will change.

Let me get this straight:

I’m letting the dems get away with becoming the lesser of Two evils by not supporting them…And you aren’t doing that by voting for them? That sounds like BS to mee.

If Dems were an overwhelming majority

They had both houses and the president in 2020 and didn’t do shit.

We still have genocide supply… We still have campaign fiance corruption and a million prblemz they didn’t do shit.

like you’re still 20 years old and thinking the world will change if you just talk about it enough.

Ahh yes there it is. I’m an angry youngster.

You have to plan ahead instead of yelling about it the last goddamn minute (in terms of election timing, this is the last minute) if you ever plan to side step D vs R, you have to look ahead 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12 years

What if 10 12 years ago we all started voting independent? I think that would have a big impact.

In fact I think if we did that work years ago, we would have a healthy 3rd party candidate now.

But instead we keep doing the same things we always do… Vote blue or else!!!

I refuse to play rigged games. And so should you.

I want to vote third party, but I’m not going to pretend that it’s safe to do so yet at the level of president.

You are the problem.

There’s a much better shot at taking over the Democratic party to force reform through than will ever happen with the GOP.

It is much more likely that a 3rd party will win, than the democratic party being reformed. Change my mind.

If so, “they” were right then,

No they weren’t. I voted blue. Biden got elected, and then he supplied the ongoing genocide. That is not a win. That is just the same abhorrent outcome that is completely unacceptable.

However, the problem is that you’re short-sighted

I would say the same thing about you. You are the one who is insisting we continue to use the bandaid, aka voting for the lesser.

Then the independent would still lose, by a very large margin, because 99%+ of the voting population has never communicated with you or even knows you exist.

I’m not the guy who came up with voting for 3rd party. Lmao. Wtf.

As for “What if a majority of voters voted Independent?” Might as well ask “What if people stopped being hateful bigots?”

OK. But you are the person who is refusing to vote any other way. People won’t vote 3rd party because they think like YOU.

You are the problem. In this scenario you would be the hateful bigot who refuse to change…

Don’t expect others to care about you if you only care about yourself.

Like how you are caring about the Palestinian people being genocided rn? by voting for the guy who approved money for their ongoing genocide.