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  • plantedworld@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I often play old games that have compatibility issues with windows 10. Most recently FEAR required a .dll from a site for a stable framerate.

    People keep saying “gaming works” on Linux but are they talking about modern games? Do old games “just work?” I have very little free time to fart about with fixing too many issues with an old game. How well does this stuff work?

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      Old games are likely to work better, as new games are likely to use new features or behaviour which aren’t yet handled properly by Wine/Proton.

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        And yet Proton/Wine are able to handle unique fixes for some new games to make them work even better on Linux.

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      Check protondb for reports on whether a specific (steam) game runs.

      In my experience, pretty much everything that doesn’t have anticheat works. I can’t remember the last time a game didn’t work fine, from stuff so old it stopped working in Windows Vista to day 1 AAA titles. Even DOS stuff is playable with DOSBox.

      Just be aware, Linux is not windows. If you try to use it like windows, you will only experience pain. It’s not hard, especially with mainstream distros like Ubuntu or Mint, but you really should invest at least a bit of effort into learning how the system works and how to use it properly.

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        Just be aware, Linux is not windows.

        As a funny aside, the reverse is also true. My first IT job that involved system administration I kept trying to treat the windows servers like I would Linux servers and that just doesn’t work so well. Especially if you’re making heavy use of powershell sessions and the administrative capabilities of powershell it can be really jarring when it works like Linux until it doesn’t

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      Proton is amazing. There are several games I’ve played on my Linux laptop that have Linux versions, and they don’t run as well as playing it with Proton.

      Check out protondb

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      As long as the game isn’t a title thats using something bleeding edge, it will work day one. And as long as the game isn’t using an non proton compatible anti-cheat, it should work. Unless said devs arbitrarily decided not to tick the “proton compatible” box cause of some hard-headed bullshit.

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      I would say old games work better also get Steamtinkerlaunch which makes fucking around easy

      If the game isnt steam just add as non steam game and bang steam will handle the rest

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      I had great experiences with old games on Linux. Mostly they work better than on a modern Windows system. For Example Neverwinter Nights 2. Under Windows movement is jittery on fast CPUs. There is a community patch for that thankfully. Under Linux it just works with WINE (the patch is advisable for other reasons there too). Also loading times are blazingly fast under WINE and Linux. On my HDD PC 1 second vs 50 on Windows. Now with a NVME SSD, Windows also only takes 2 seconds.

      Of course Wine/Proton is not perfect, I still have a dualboot system for that. But I boot to Windows very rarely these days. When I do I am hit with so many slow updates, that I don’t get to my game. Maybe I should stop doing them and cut of its network access.

      Really old games tend to be more difficult. For a relative I set up a VM with Win98 as the performance impact won’t hurt the games, some even benefit. (I believe the games where Safecracker and Theme Park) Even older than that DosBox and ScummVM work perfectly.

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      )leave aside old games , despite what Lemmy Linux Community have you believe, even new version of many s/w don’t work with Linux , package managers are crap and “everything is easy with terminal” is a lie. I am not fan of MS either but Linux just does not work.

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        Steam works in Linux, guy. The functionality of buying/downloading/playing games doesn’t change between Windows and Linux. There’s nothing additionally complicated about it (aside from occasionally switching from regular Proton to GE-Proton for better performance, and that’s 3 clicks).

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          Go to Linux Lemmy and search for Minecraft. There was a post few days ago on how to run it in Linux. Nobody had answer in how to run it natively nobody. It was not far long that Linux on any version had problems accessing YouTube b cause of flash, and installing flash was no easy job with multiple dependencies. Now it may work here and there may be 80% but as easy as windows .no way , it’s not a everyday OS who don’t want to touch Terminal ever.

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            You don’t need to run it natively, it runs just fine on Linux with Proton. I’m not sure you understand how far it’s come since Steam Deck. Dwarf Fortress plays better on my Linux laptop using Proton than using the Linux runtime version. Like way better.

            I don’t care about Minecraft, so I don’t know specifics. But why would I search lemmy for a solution like that? A quick Google search shows Minecraft is playable on Steam Deck, which means it’s playable (probably better/easier) on a Linux desktop. It’s a very popular game, so there were even hotfixes to Proton in the past to make sure it works