• pingveno@lemmy.ml
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      9 months ago

      Liberals are the most arrogant people on earth: you think reality bends to your will.

      People who can’t make a realistic choice are far worse. When you represent an itty bitty fraction of the populace, you don’t have the right to dictate that policy be far-left. If you choose to not participate or to vote third party under FPTP, you are only hurting yourself by giving up what little influence you had. That’s just how democracy works.

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          9 months ago

          Schrödinger’s Leftist: simultaneously an irrelevant tiny minority with no power, and crucially important to Biden winning, being wholly responsible if Trump wins.

          No one is ever wholly responsible if the right wins, obviously. Wins are always based on a broad spectrum coalition, whereas losses are based on a coalition just barely failing. Modern US presidential elections are always close. Still, that doesn’t mean a potential coalition member gets to dictate coalition policy, especially when they’re on the extremes.

          Unconditionally voting Blue means I have no influence at all.

          Barring the demise of FPTP, you will never get what you want. Instead, politicians just learn you will never vote for them and they should look to more conservative constituencies. That, of course, means policies you don’t like.

          No, it really isn’t.

          It’s called compromise, and yes it is how a functioning democracy works.

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              9 months ago

              I have always voted for them in the past; they looked to more conservative constituencies anyway. Seems like always voting for them just means they take my vote for granted.

              Huh. That’s odd. Democrats have been trending to the left.

              If this is your idea of a functioning democracy, I question why you even believe in democracy in the first place.

              As it stands, I think US government badly needs some changes. FPTP is terrible, too many officials (SCOTUS, Congress, president) serve until they’re at death’s door, the electoral college never worked as intended, and money has too much influence. But this is all fixable, even if it’s hard. Those will change things, not staying home and pretending that a politician gives a rat’s ass about you if you refuse to turn out every time you don’t get your way.

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      9 months ago

      Stop acting like a state propagandist then. Stop suggesting that neo-libs and fascists are identical just because they’re both bad. -10 > -100, even though both are negative.

      Lack of nuance is evidence of idiocy or ulterior motives. I was being generous by assuming you had ulterior motives.