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    23 hours ago

    You assume humans do the opposite? We literally institutionalize humans who not follow set patterns.

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        20 hours ago

        Funny how triggering it is for some people when anyone acknowledges humans are just evolved primates doing the same pattern matching.

        • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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          2 hours ago

          We actually have sentience, though, and are capable of creating new things and having realizations. AI isn’t real and LLMs and dispersion models are simply reiterating algorithmic patterns, no LLM or dispersion model can create anything original or expressive.

          Also, we aren’t “evolved primates.” We are just primates, the thing is, primates are the most socially and cognitively evolved species on the planet, so that’s not a denigrating sentiment unless your a pompous condescending little shit.

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            29 minutes ago

            The denigration of simulated thought processes, paired with aggrandizing of wetware processing, is exactly my point. The same self-serving narcissism that’s colored so many biased & flawed arguments in biological philosophy putting humans on a pedestal above all other animals.

            It’s also hysterical and ironic that you insist on your own level of higher thinking, as you regurgitate an argument so unoriginal that a bot could’ve easily written it. Just absolutely no self-awareness.

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              3 minutes ago

              It’s not higher thinking, it’s just actual thinking. Computers are not capable of that and never will be. It’s not a level of fighting progress, or whatever you are trying to get at, it’s just a realistic understanding of computers and technology. You’re jerking off a pipe dream, you don’t even understand how the technology you’re talking about works, and calling a brain “wetware” perfectly outlines that. You’re working on a script writers level of understanding how computers, hardware, and software work. You lack the grasp to even know what you’re talking about, this isn’t Johnny Mnemonic.

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          17 hours ago

          It’s not that institutionalized people don’t follow “set” pattern matches. That’s why you’re getting downvotes.

          Some of those humans can operate with the same brain rules alright. They may even be more efficient at it than you and I may. The higher level functions is a different thing.

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            17 hours ago

            That’s absolutely what it is. It’s a pattern on here. Any acknowledgment of humans being animals or less than superior gets hit with pushback.

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              3 hours ago

              I didn’t say we aren’t animals or that we don’t follow physics rules.

              But what you’re saying is the equivalent of “everything that goes up will eventually go down - that’s how physics works and you don’t see that, you’re in denial!!!11!!!1”

            • Auli@lemmy.ca
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              17 hours ago

              Humans are animals. But an LLM is not an animal and has no reasoning abilities.

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                15 hours ago

                It’s built by animals, and it reflects them. That’s impressive on its own. Doesn’t need to be exaggerated.

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                    27 minutes ago

                    These are almost the exact same talking points we used to hear about ‘why would anyone need a home computer?’ Wild how some people can be so consistently short-sighted again and again and again.

                    What makes you think you’re capable of sentience, when your comments are all cliches and you’re incapable of personal growth or vision or foresight?

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      21 hours ago

      Some of them, sometimes. But some are adulated and free and contribute vast swathes to our culture and understanding.